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Post by alexbrown on Dec 30, 2017 5:52:30 GMT -5
Outsourcing can be a great way to minimise costs. The best way to outsource successfully is through word of mouth. Regardless of a referral, I suggest that you test out the compatibility of working with a particular outsourcing team by assigning a short-term project. If you treat it properly, outsourcing can be the key to making your small business grow. You can read this article on advantages of outsourcing diceus.com/top-10-advantages-outsourcing-services-make-point/ . It's pretty informative! |
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Post by h on Dec 30, 2017 6:31:15 GMT -5
Outsourcing can be a great way to minimise costs. The best way to outsource successfully is through word of mouth. Regardless of a referral, I suggest that you test out the compatibility of working with a particular outsourcing team by assigning a short-term project. If you treat it properly, outsourcing can be the key to making your small business grow. You can read this article on advantages of outsourcing diceus.com/top-10-advantages-outsourcing-services-make-point/ . It's pretty informative! Umm, I think you're in the wrong forum. Not the right context for the use of the word "outsourcing." |
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Post by choosinghappy on Dec 30, 2017 8:33:07 GMT -5
Outsourcing can be a great way to minimise costs. The best way to outsource successfully is through word of mouth. Regardless of a referral, I suggest that you test out the compatibility of working with a particular outsourcing team by assigning a short-term project. If you treat it properly, outsourcing can be the key to making your small business grow. You can read this article on advantages of outsourcing diceus.com/top-10-advantages-outsourcing-services-make-point/ . It's pretty informative! Umm, I think you're in the wrong forum. Not the right context for the use of the word "outsourcing." Hahaha yes could someone please give me a referral?! 😆 |
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Post by worksforme2 on Dec 30, 2017 10:44:52 GMT -5
Umm, I think you're in the wrong forum. Not the right context for the use of the word "outsourcing." Hahaha yes could someone please give me a referral?! 😆 I would be happy to. I would recommend an older and mature male who can appreciate what you bring to the table, and who has the life experience that allows for your introduction to a new and varied life of intimacy. It just so happens I know someone like that...... |
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Post by DryCreek on Dec 30, 2017 11:12:25 GMT -5
LOL at "word of mouth referrals"!
I was trying to imagine how this would work ("You've *got* to try my guy!" ??), then I got to the bottom and realized it was spam for a different kind of outsourcing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 12:28:36 GMT -5
LOL at "word of mouth referrals"! I was trying to imagine how this would work ("You've *got* to try my guy!" ??), then I got to the bottom and realized it was spam for a different kind of outsourcing. , You'd be surprised. When I was younger, I went out with an attorney a couple times. I wasn't her cup of tea, but she seemed to like me on some level, had more friends and acquaintances than Carter has liver pills. She'd frequently invited me to parties where she already had a date or would call and ask if I would like to go out with friends and acquaintances of hers -- frequently as a double date with her. It always took me a few minutes to figure out that she was not wanting to go out with me. So I don't think it's so much "You've *got* to try my guy!", but more "I know a guy that isn't too offensive -- you won't have to go alone". |
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Post by jgb on Jan 10, 2018 22:22:44 GMT -5
I have to admit, the discussion as to how long you can go made me laugh. Also made me try to figure out when my last orgasm occurred. I know it's been at least 5 years...because that is how long I have been taking antidepressants.
Over the years, I have taken many different kinds. They have all had a negative effect on my ability to become aroused and to actually finish, but nothing like this (venlafaxine). I wonder if its because this drug is particularly vicious in that area or because I am in my early 50s now, or possibly both.
and for those who want to tell me that I shouldn't take anything, that there are alternatives...all I can tell you is that I am not suicidal while taking it. When first and last thought of every day is of suicide, I guess sex is a luxury you can't afford? Maybe I am just lucky that my wife has no sexual desire.
Never tried viagra or any of the alternatives. Don't know if that would work, probably don't want to know. Worst case scenario is that I could get an erection but still had the anorgasmia. I suspect that, if those drugs helped with that, the nice people in the matching outdoor bathtubs would have mentioned it.
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Post by Frustrated1978 on Jan 11, 2018 0:30:10 GMT -5
The answer is very simple. In my experience most refusers are also narcissits. Your wife is most likely a narcissistic social path that refuses to give you any joy or allow others to give you joy. Its all about control. You see if you were allowed to go elsewhere for some pleasure you might just actually realise what you have been missing out on. The refuser does not want the refused to have a sudden awakening in regards to the possible sex on offer elsewhere. This would be very bad for the refusers standard of living. It might just drop a notch or two and your sudden come to god moment might awaken the need to ditch the refuser so you can take up the sex on tap offered elsewhere. In return the refuser would lose an ATM, Cook, Maid, Babysitter, his/her cosy little world etc etc. So you see it is in the best interest of The Refuser to just ban sex all together regardless of who is willing to dish it out to you.
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Post by baza on Jan 11, 2018 0:46:45 GMT -5
I figure most people know the answer to this but I can’t completely make sense of it. Why would a refuser want their partner to be faithful ? I can see that outsourcing wouldn’t suite a lot of those who are refused for many good reasons but I was wondering what everyone’s thought were with regards to a refuser wanting their partner to stay but not tolerating outsourcing. It seems hypocritical. Look at it from the refusive spouses' point of view. They do not want sex - with you (or possibly generally) - but they do want you around. As Financier, parent, social accessory, chauffer etc etc. If said refusive spouse gave the refused spouse the green light to outsource, a highly probable outcome would be the refused spouse finding a far more suitable life partner than the refusive spouse and ditching the refusive spouse. A refusive spouses' modus operandi is to keep you at a comfortable distance. Not so close as to make it an equal and mutual partnership, nor too far away lest you break the bonds and walk away. If you choose to go down the outsourcing path, then you must *take* the green light. Not *ask* for it. The refusive spouse is betting that you will not *take* the green light. They are betting that you fear the prospect of the marriage ending more than the refusive spouse does. And, anecdotally - if the stories in here are any guide - that is a pretty safe bet. At least initially. |
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Post by ironhamster on Jan 11, 2018 8:01:38 GMT -5
The idea of a refused partner finding a more suitable partner is a distinct possibility, and given time a likelihood.
As my situation unwinds, my belief that my primary purpose in my W's life was to finance her lifestyle is being reinforced.
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Post by Dan on Jan 12, 2018 11:35:35 GMT -5
I figure most people know the answer to this but I can’t completely make sense of it. Why would a refuser want their partner to be faithful ? ... I was wondering what everyone’s thought were with regards to a refuser wanting their partner to stay but not tolerating outsourcing. It seems hypocritical. In my case, my wife hasn't/doesn't see herself as the "refuser" in a sexless marriage. She may admit to being the low-libido partner, but she still expects fidelity. She ties the concept/value of fidelity to the marriage... not the current state of sexual relations within the marriage. In other words, she interprets our wedding vows as: "Now that we're married, you'll be faithful to me."
Not: "Now that we're married, you'll be faithful to me as long as we are having a healthy, mutually-fulfilling, ongoing marital sex life."
Truth is: NEITHER of those phrases were exchanged at our wedding... nor at anytime before or after! So we are both guilty of making some assumptions, and editing in some clarifications post-wedding. By the way, now that I'm at the stage of counter-refusing (not asking her for sex in over two years, and so there has been none), she believes she open to the idea, and I'm the one who has rebuffed her. So on the grain of truth that is there, she would have no tolerance for extra-marital activity, as, in her view, she's available. (I think she thinks I don't want sex. I don't know if she's figured out that I still do... just not with her.) |
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Post by rejected101 on Jan 12, 2018 11:39:23 GMT -5
Masterbating isn't cheating, but the affects can be the same when the person chooses thier hands, toys, videos, books, ect over you. Either way something or someone else is chosen over you. This is very true. I haven’t found a single article on the internet yet that says you should save your desire for your spouse instead of jerking off. Why? |
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Post by Dan on Jan 12, 2018 11:45:28 GMT -5
Masterbating isn't cheating, but the affects can be the same when the person chooses thier hands, toys, videos, books, ect over you. Either way something or someone else is chosen over you. This is very true. I haven’t found a single article on the internet yet that says you should save your desire for your spouse instead of jerking off. Why? There's TONS of stuff along the lines of that. For one example, the "No Fap" movement ( site) is specifically about "quit porn and stop wanking; instead, put your efforts in to getting into an actual healthy sexual relationship with another person." (By the way, WITHOUT any sort of moralizing.) When I last looked it seemed oriented at single men; not married men using masturbation as a non-outsourcing sex-substitute when in an SM.... hmmm, now why would I be interested in that? PS: I strongly agree that masturbating isn't infidelity. Even if done to excess and disrupting the marital sexlife. At that point, it IS a problem that needs to get addressed by the couple, but labeling it "infidelity" is, IMO, a bad idea. |
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Post by rejected101 on Jan 12, 2018 12:07:11 GMT -5
This is very true. I haven’t found a single article on the internet yet that says you should save your desire for your spouse instead of jerking off. Why? There's TONS of stuff along the lines of that. For one example, the "No Fap" movement ( site) is specifically about "quit porn and stop wanking; instead, put your efforts in to getting into an actual healthy sexual relationship with another person." (By the way, WITHOUT any sort of moralizing.) When I last looked it seemed oriented at single men; not married men using masturbation as a non-outsourcing sex-substitute when in an SM.... hmmm, now why would I be interested in that? PS: I strongly agree that masturbating isn't infidelity. Even if done to excess and disrupting the marital sexlife. At that point, it IS a problem that needs to get addressed by the couple, but labeling it "infidelity" is, IMO, a bad idea. Nothing about excessive jerking off without porn though as a choice over your spouse? |
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Post by Dan on Jan 12, 2018 13:32:58 GMT -5
porn ... as a choice over your spouse? Not quite sure what you are asking. In my view, she made the choice over the first 27 years of our marriage to make marital intimacy a VERY low priority. Shame: she is suffering from mild depression and a generally pessimistic outlook on life that a couple of orgasms a week probably could have seriously lessened. I was willing to assist during that 27 years. Not anymore. These days, I'm taking my "ejaculation-initiated endorphin therapy" into my own hands. And working on my exit plan, like by talking to lawyers. But -- you know -- not at the same time. |
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