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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 22:17:08 GMT -5
I've been on other sites and was on EP, but the atmosphere the Admins and Mods have created here is so positive, supportive, empathetic and FUN!!
Thank you to everyone - members and Admins for making ILIASM a safe, soft place to fall, commiserate and regroup.
Hugs to all y'all and big 'ol smooches!! Z
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 4:50:34 GMT -5
This reminded me of so many of the folks here, who make me smile and spread joy and abundance, no matter the circumstances. 
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Post by deleted on May 14, 2016 15:40:37 GMT -5
I like it better here. The people are nicer. There arent any jerks who's answer is always "just get the hell out and stop whining". I'll leave when I'm darn good and ready and not one second before.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 17:50:41 GMT -5
deleted's comment resonated with me. Even though I'm a confident person, I saw so many "stop whining and get out" types of comments on EP. To be fair, those comments were in more than one group, but if someone poured their heart out, and I either didn't know what to say, or couldn't say something positive, I just moved on. Some of the "advice" was cringe-worthy, but some was downright mean. Seeing that made me a lurker. Whereas, here, the only folks who would be interested in this group, and I, have SM, in common. It tends to weed out the "well-intentioned" bacon-scented candles group. 
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Post by Dan on May 14, 2016 19:27:40 GMT -5
I like it better here. The people are nicer. There arent any jerks who's answer is always "just get the hell out and stop whining". I'll leave when I'm darn good and ready and not one second before. It's true that the opinion of some people could be annoying to us at times. Does that make them jerks? I don't think so... But I may be biased, seeing that I am one of those who is glad that finally could see the way out and walked through it... I could be a jerk, but for other reasons entirely. Anyway I agree with you @zumbamami right! The place is just fine as it is! I've given this much thought. I think a bit of "tough love" -- telling someone the sobering truth as you see it, for example -- is sometimes required. So I appreciated a large measure of the "straight talk" from the voices on EP ILIASM. However, knowing that direct talk is sometimes warranted is NOT a license to beat that drum incessantly... or take the drum and beat someone over the head, expecting immediate acceptance of "what worked for me must be exactly what will work for you!" Sometimes those voices were impatient... sometimes to the point of rudeness, IMO. Furthermore, even wise, experienced folks sometimes get a wrong read of a newcomer's situation; open-minded listening is still required. In other words: I think humor AND humility are very important tools for us to try to "administer aide" to newcomers to ILIASM. I see it here now in large measure... and I hope it becomes a permanent hallmark of this site. THAT is what will keep this a "Great Site".
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:52:13 GMT -5
I've given this much thought. I think a bit of "tough love" -- telling someone the sobering truth as you see it, for example -- is sometimes required. So I appreciated a large measure of the "straight talk" from the voices on EP ILIASM. However, knowing that direct talk is sometimes warranted is NOT a license to beat that drum incessantly... or take the drum and beat someone over the head, expecting immediate acceptance of "what worked for me must be exactly what will work for you!" Sometimes those voices were impatient... sometimes to the point of rudeness, IMO. Furthermore, even wise, experienced folks sometimes get a wrong read of a newcomer's situation; open-minded listening is still required. In other words: I think humor AND humility are very important tools for us to try to "administer aide" to newcomers to ILIASM. I see it here now in large measure... and I hope it becomes a permanent hallmark of this site. THIS. Sometimes people need a kick in the butt. Sometimes people need hand-holding. Some people are ready to get out right this very minute. Some people (sadly, I think) will never get out. Some people have some good reasons for postponing their exit for a while. (Kids are the most common reason, and I think that's debatable. But I won't debate it right here and now.) As a very wise man once said, "Tread your own path."
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Post by SweepyBear on May 15, 2016 21:00:10 GMT -5
This is a very "adult" place, in the best sense of the word, we are all in the same boat to varying degrees and the common shared experiences help make this a safe and non threatening place. I've been accused of being flippant sometimes and if I come across this way, I can only apologise, blame the English sense of humour that is steeped in sarcasm and the fact that its a bloody great way of coping with all the stress that comes our way . Don't be afraid to ask questions, you only take advice if you want to, so always try and resist the knee jerk reactions and rash actions . This site is here to help us survive and grow, so lets have fun, grumble a little and even shed the odd tear or four but most importantly of all TALK .
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Post by RumRunner on May 15, 2016 22:02:58 GMT -5
I've been on other sites and was on EP, but the atmosphere the Admins and Mods have created here is so positive, supportive, empathetic and FUN!! Thank you to everyone - members and Admins for making ILIASM a safe, soft place to fall, commiserate and regroup. Hugs to all y'all and big 'ol smooches!! Z I think of all the sites that I have joined and been a member of, I think I like the organization here better than any I have seen before. At least the site has its own home and is not bothered with outsiders and trolls like it was on EP. Perhaps this group should have left EP long before now..... 
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Post by wewbwb on May 17, 2016 15:23:07 GMT -5
I like it better here. The people are nicer. There arent any jerks who's answer is always "just get the hell out and stop whining". I'll leave when I'm darn good and ready and not one second before. Are you done yet? (sorry I couldn't resist.)
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 12:22:38 GMT -5
I, for one, am loving it here and I wholeheartedly agree with all y'all in this thread. I'm feeling a big ole virtual group hug here.
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Post by wewbwb on May 26, 2016 8:39:21 GMT -5
I, for one, am loving it here and I wholeheartedly agree with all y'all in this thread. I'm feeling a big ole virtual group hug here. Sorry- that's a mouse in my pocket.
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