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Post by northstarmom on Jul 21, 2021 16:15:04 GMT -5
Handy "MGTOW groups share a belief common among other manosphere groups that women follow a similar pattern in dating and marriage: young and attractive women are promiscuous and engage in "hypergamy", having sex with numerous men and abandoning a man if a "higher-value" man shows interest."
Sounds like MGTOW is filled with ugly, jobless men.
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Post by Handy on Jul 21, 2021 18:13:25 GMT -5
Northstarmom, there are all kinds of forums that are so one sided and I consider MGTOW as a one sided forum with a few truths thrown in to make some of the ideas discussed a one sided reality.
It is sort of like watching the Israel news and then watching the news program on the same topics from Iran.
My post about a woman looking for a higher level man and dumping the lower level guy, I suspect it happens but not very often. Like you say some guys think they are a prize when they are way below average and they have social relation issues.
The problem I see with the MGTOW group is a few men might have gotten a raw deal. I am certain as many women got raw deals. So maybe just as many women would say the same or similar things as the MGTOW say.
I know from reading forums with mostly female posters that there were more women saying mo more men than men saying no more women on other forums.
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Post by mirrororchid on Jul 21, 2021 19:23:28 GMT -5
Handy "MGTOW groups share a belief common among other manosphere groups that women follow a similar pattern in dating and marriage: young and attractive women are promiscuous and engage in "hypergamy", having sex with numerous men and abandoning a man if a "higher-value" man shows interest." Sounds like MGTOW is filled with ugly, jobless men. Because they would never date multiple women and trade one in for a "higher-value" model, given the chance. Well-deserved snark aside, one philosophy of the MGTOW crowd is to check your assumptions about commitment: Be aware of changing power dynamics and prepared to walk away if expectations of expense and spare time increase with longevity of the relationship held as value in and of itself. Men here at ILIASM have surrendered a great deal for an arrangement of uncertain value. The ladies here have at times been incredulous with the crap the guys here have put up with and may still be putting up with. MGTOW is a philosophy of not getting trapped the same way. I assume because they already have and aren't colossally stupid. Some of them... are weirdos that aspire to hermetic existence. This is popular among those who marry guarded self-worth with misogyny and ultimately, misanthropy. I find the vigilance of protecting self-respect wise, but also a bit hellish. The constant state of mistrust strikes me as exhausting and potentially excluding possibilities of profound, visceral, mutual love.
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