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Post by northstarmom on Jun 22, 2017 5:42:55 GMT -5
The information in this article may be useful to men whose previously sexually-interested wives stopped being so in menopause and/or complained of vaginal pain during sex. The article says that many women experience vaginal atrophy, but don't tell their doctors, mistake their symptoms for something else, or get inadequate treatment, so the atrophy worsens, which can make intercourse impossible. There are things that can help: www.lifescript.com/health/centers/vaginal_atrophy/articles/7_mistakes_women_make_with_vaginal_atrophy.aspx |
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Post by baza on Jun 22, 2017 6:17:37 GMT -5
I can see this one provoking a charge off into the wide blue yonder by those disposed toward "why chasing".
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Post by h on Jun 22, 2017 6:25:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the share! I'm sure that someone may benefit from it if they were willing but ignorant of the underlying problem. I wonder if I could link this to the " medical issues" thread I put up a while back.
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Post by northstarmom on Jun 22, 2017 6:48:25 GMT -5
Why chasing could work if there is a treatable cause that both partners are interested in addressing.
What I found interesting in the article about vaginal atrophy was that women may misdiagnose themselves as having vaginal infections (typically one treats these through over the counter meds), and then feel discouraged and give up when symptoms get worse. Another aspect of the article that was interesting was that doctors may provide bad treatment such as ignoring the women's symptoms or telling them that it's something to live with. It can take a lot of courage for a woman to bring up such a problem with her doctor, who typically is male. I remember how hard it was for me to tell my male gynecologist that I was having migraines when I orgasmed. His lack of concern (His response was what was the problem since I was able to engage in intercourse) was so awful that I left his practice and found another doctor, but some women may not have other doctors to go to or may think that something is wrong with them for caring about sex at their age.....
Anyway, vaginal atrophy could be a reason that is true for the men whose wives loved sex before menopause and then suddenly stopped having sex. It could be worth it to show the article to your wives, and to talk about it. If she reads the article, thinks it may apply and then SEEKS HELP, that could lead to the end of the sexlessness in your marriage. If she refuses to read it or or reads it and gives no reply or says it applies, but takes NO action to see her doctor, then she likely has the marriage she wants.
If a woman was never particularly sexual and then stopped all sex once she was menopausal, this article will not matter. She was just waiting for a physical reason to stop the sex that always was only duty sex for her.
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Post by nancyb on Jun 22, 2017 7:29:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the article northstarmom. I am post menopausal now and hadn't had penetrative intercourse in 14 years. Now that I am having a full on sexual relationship again I am acutely aware of the changes in my vagina. I certainly don't get as wet and my vagina seems shorter somehow. Neither of these things has has anything to do with my desire. I am still as horny as ever.  I am using appropriate lubes and a low dose topical estrogen ( when I can remember to use it) |
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Post by jim44444 on Jun 22, 2017 7:52:23 GMT -5
Excellent information. The take away I get from this and from personal experience is women need to see vaginal atrophy as a treatable condition and that their health care provider must recognize vaginal atrophy as a treatable condition.
However, if the woman is not interested in sex or sex with her partner then all the estrogen creams in the world will not turn her on. The same goes for Viagra and other male enhancements. None of these treatments increase the desire or horniness, they treat the physical ability to engage in sex.
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Post by merrygoround on Jun 22, 2017 11:06:18 GMT -5
Exactly. Also, try to encourage your spouse to seek out a gynaecologist who specialises in menopause/perimenopause.
There are also some great menopause forums for women on the internet which discuss all the issues, traditional and alternative treatments, symptoms etc. Could put her mind ( or yours) at ease.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 8:43:52 GMT -5
The information in this article may be useful to men whose previously sexually-interested wives stopped being so in menopause and/or complained of vaginal pain during sex. The article says that many women experience vaginal atrophy, but don't tell their doctors, mistake their symptoms for something else, or get inadequate treatment, so the atrophy worsens, which can make intercourse impossible. There are things that can help: www.lifescript.com/health/centers/vaginal_atrophy/articles/7_mistakes_women_make_with_vaginal_atrophy.aspxExcellent information and it would be extremely helpful to someone who cared. My roomie doesn't and these suggestions would require effort as well as remove the most powerful excuse of all, medical. |
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Post by wom360 on Jul 26, 2017 9:09:51 GMT -5
Why chasing never works. The why doesn't matter and the choices remain the same. Leave, cheat, stay sexless. And own your choice.
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Post by shamwow on Jul 27, 2017 13:35:12 GMT -5
I can see this one provoking a charge off into the wide blue yonder by those disposed toward "why chasing". LOL...I actually thought in my head...Perhaps my ex-wife began menopause at age 25? Maybe that's why... |
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Post by WindSister on Jul 28, 2017 13:21:39 GMT -5
It always comes back to use it or lose it.  |
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Post by jim44444 on Jul 29, 2017 7:54:56 GMT -5
FWIW, there is a male equivalence. Penis shrinkage
Within the article is this tidbit of wisdom - |
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Post by mirrororchid on Nov 14, 2023 7:00:51 GMT -5
Despite Mrs. MirrorOrchid being a trooper, I'd like it to get easier for her, but she doesn't pursue the matter. Going to check out Prasterone (dehydroepiandrosterone) and see if there's good nuggets in the "Beyond teh Basics" sections. www.uptodate.com/contents/vaginal-dryness-beyond-the-basics/print#:~:text=There%20are%20several%20treatment%20options,a%20vaginal%20tablet%20called%20prasterone. uptodate.com was a good resource during COVID, providing data to back up their reporting of the benefits, efficacy, and limitations of the vaccine; properly balancing the tiresome "It's perfect!" and "It will kill you!" blather. Let's see what they got for this little vexing life challenge, shall we? EDIT: I found the OP link to be broken, so, I guess I'm offering a swapout? |
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Post by aquacat on Nov 15, 2023 14:09:56 GMT -5
I wonder if my wife has had this all along? Intercourse is initially uncomfortable because she doesn't get lubricated very easily if at all enough.
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Post by mirrororchid on Nov 16, 2023 6:48:44 GMT -5
I wonder if my wife has had this all along? Intercourse is initially uncomfortable because she doesn't get lubricated very easily if at all enough. Does she use topical lubricants at all? Or the two of you count on mother nature alone? Pretty harmless to try. It's mandatory for Mrs. MirrorOrchid. It's not even 100% for her. She could really stand some estrogen cream, but she worries about the cancer risk. We're men, if we got Stage IV in five years but we could have regular nookie, we'd do it. Pathetically simple creatures. |
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I am using appropriate lubes and a low dose topical estrogen ( when I can remember to use it)
