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Post by jim44444 on Mar 3, 2018 20:46:26 GMT -5
Last Sunday I was sitting in the Fort Lauderdale airport waiting on a flight home. I was catching up on posts in similarworlds and here after being on a 8 day cruise. On SW I read this thread posted on my friend Windslyph's account. similarworlds.com/9515323-I-Believe-Love-Heals/1731748-Wind-made-her-transition-peacefully-at-9-45-thisThis was not unexpected, she had been fighting ovarian cancer for some time. But even though expected I still sat there with tears in my eyes. Fortunately my wife was in the restroom at the time and I was able to compose myself before she returned. I did tell her about Windslyph's passing because we had discussed her cancer and treatments. She knew her as the author Rebecca E Grant. I find myself at odds with my feelings. Normally I can openly grieve and engage in some manner of saying goodbye to friends and relatives who die. But how can I do that when I only know Windsylph through this virtual world? I have only her first name and a general region of where she lived, cannot even view an obit. How do we obtain closure on the death of an online friend? It seems that our current technology has again left a gap in our social evolution. WEWBWB thread had a similar theme.
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Post by WindSister on Mar 3, 2018 20:54:17 GMT -5
Last Sunday I was sitting in the Fort Lauderdale airport waiting on a flight home. I was catching up on posts in similarworlds and here after being on a 8 day cruise. On SW I read this thread posted on my friend Windslyph's account. similarworlds.com/9515323-I-Believe-Love-Heals/1731748-Wind-made-her-transition-peacefully-at-9-45-thisThis was not unexpected, she had been fighting ovarian cancer for some time. But even though expected I still sat there with tears in my eyes. Fortunately my wife was in the restroom at the time and I was able to compose myself before she returned. I did tell her about Windslyph's passing because we had discussed her cancer and treatments. She knew her as the author Rebecca E Grant. I find myself at odds with my feelings. Normally I can openly grieve and engage in some manner of saying goodbye to friends and relatives who die. But how can I do that when I only know Windsylph through this virtual world? I have only her first name and a general region of where she lived, cannot even view an obit. How do we obtain closure on the death of an online friend? It seems that our current technology has again left a gap in our social evolution. WEWBWB thread had a similar theme. Oh man. I am sorry. I remember her...sbe must have had same name at EP?? I don't have an answer for you. I know I resonated with a lot of her writings. Connections are connections. You taking the time to speak of her is how you honor her. Is there ever "closure?" ((Hugs))
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Post by hopingforachange on Mar 3, 2018 22:03:13 GMT -5
I reciently thought about this, I have a friend I met years ago from online chat rooms. We have only seen each other once at a coffee place that was random luck thanks to both of us being on travel.
I have told her that she will be invited to my funeral. My W might not like it but tough, she's still a friend and she needs to greave as well. Even if we didn't meet in person, she would still be invited. She might not make the trip, but I would think just being invited and having that chance for closer would help.
But for people that I have only known on message boards, like here.... That's a tough one.
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Post by bballgirl on Mar 4, 2018 14:58:19 GMT -5
I am so sorry for your loss. Online relationships are tough and I have experienced a sadness for some that have come to an end or morphed into something else. But death has a finality to it and like all relationships I think we have to be thankful for whatever time and manner we were allowed to be in that persons life and they in ours. Please find comfort that you got to know her even if just at a cyber level - sometimes those are the most authentic. Hugs to you.
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Post by Caris on Mar 6, 2018 19:58:10 GMT -5
Jim, I am so sorry. I had no idea she was ill. May she Rest In Peace. I have lost several online friends over the past few years. They were unexpected, and I felt sad. It’s difficult to grieve in the open, but allow yourself to grieve anyway. Grieve for her as you would any friend. In my view, it’s not the name, the location, or the physical presence, but the connection between two souls and hearts, whether romantic or friendship. People online can touch us deeply, and even more so because we reveal so much of ourselves to each other than we can do in the “rea”l world.
My condolences.
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Post by hopingforachange on Dec 13, 2019 22:09:45 GMT -5
This was a post of Facebook and it brought be back to this posting. Everyone here is friends.
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Post by obobfla on Dec 14, 2019 9:35:47 GMT -5
My condolences, jim44444. Sadly, I have become an authority on grieving, having gone through many of the stages with the death of my wife. One truth I have realized is that no one really grieves the same way. I’ve gone through the initial shock of her death, followed by the emotional blender of those first few months. That has been followed by the long stretch of adjusting to the empty space she left behind, which the most common form of grieving. I still experience this one. Hell, I go through this one on the cat I lost five years ago. This is the sneaky form of grief. I come across some situation in which she and I shared, like watching my son do something or playing with the cats. Then it hits me - she’s not there! It’s hard to hold back the tears when it happens. With the second anniversary of her death approaching, I’ve come across a new emotion - paranoia. I get scared that everyone will forget her, so I must keep her memory alive. Yes, it’s ridiculous, I haven’t forgotten my late cat, so how am I going to forget about my wife? Since I grew up Catholic, I’ve got a handy solution. The Church has saint feast days, normally celebrated on the anniversary of the saint’s death. I’ve set aside the anniversary of my wife’s death to go to the places we spent together, the church where we were married, and the park where we shared our first kiss. Since her death was right before Christmas, it allows me to get my grieving out of the way and enjoy Christmas. Online or not, I think the best way to deal with grieving is through the memories and the shrines we create from those memories. No, she’s not there. But she was, and a part of her is with me here.
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Post by Handy on Dec 14, 2019 11:10:54 GMT -5
The more I read, the more I realize that everything has an expiration date, even our sun at the center of our solar system. I try to enjoy the good times I had with someone or some things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 17:27:40 GMT -5
Jim, I think of her sometimes, too. She was the first passing that really hit me on EP/SW. When my friend J died, I was incredibly sad. I never met him, only talked to him online. And after I talked to other women who talked to him as well, I think I got the best version of him! They are not friends in the flesh but they are friends in heart and soul. I can't explain it but it's true.
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Post by petrushka on Mar 20, 2020 20:12:12 GMT -5
MMhmm - this is the bitch when you make friends with someone on the 'net and yet, everybody stays anonymous.
I've experienced the same thing, a gamer friend died unexpectedly, in her 40s. Everybody else was gobsmacked also. Well someone must've had closer contact.
The real friends I have made online can contact me on whatsap, email, or skype, and vice versa. And I expect that someone here will let my contacts know should I suddenly croak. With real, close confidantes I think this is essential.
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Post by jim44444 on Mar 20, 2020 21:33:25 GMT -5
Jim, I think of her sometimes, too. She was the first passing that really hit me on EP/SW. When my friend J died, I was incredibly sad. I never met him, only talked to him online. And after I talked to other women who talked to him as well, I think I got the best version of him! They are not friends in the flesh but they are friends in heart and soul. I can't explain it but it's true. It is hard to explain. I am glad to see you came to visit us here on ILIASM.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 10:55:25 GMT -5
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Post by lessingham on Apr 11, 2020 9:06:13 GMT -5
The hardest thing is I has a cyber friend who was very close, living in Italy. I dare not contact her as my wife would flip
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Post by northstarmom on Apr 11, 2020 10:03:25 GMT -5
Lessingham, why would your wife have to know if you contacted your online friend?
Why do you care if your wife “flips”? What do you get out of by having your wife rule your life?
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Post by lessingham on Apr 12, 2020 5:24:35 GMT -5
So, this morning I sent the email.
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