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Post by Handy on Jul 12, 2021 3:25:47 GMT -5
I am sorry to hear about the Delta version touching you and your partner's lives.
I agree with you, I keep wearing my mask even though I had 2 Moderna jabs. Almost no one wears a mask at Walmart and the county only has a 45% vaccination rate.
Thanks for the 92% oxygen level details. I would have guessed the danger level to be 60% or lower. I have an O2 meter. They only cost $8 on eBay.
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Post by worksforme2 on Jul 12, 2021 6:25:29 GMT -5
I agree with NSM in that I pretty much still mask up when I am out and about. Unfortunately a lot of people do not, so if they are infected but asymptomatic they are spreading Covid with every breath they exhale. I also keep a bottle of sanitizer in my vehicle so I clean my hands immediately after being out or touching things other are touching, like a nozzle at a gas pump, or a grocery cart.
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Post by Handy on Jul 12, 2021 13:57:19 GMT -5
Of the 1,095 patients, 197 (18%) died in the hospital. Relative to those hospitalized with normal blood oxygen saturations, those with low levels were 1.8 to 4.0 times more likely to die in the hospital. Likewise, patients with high respiration rates were 1.9 to 3.2 times more likely to die than those with normal rates.
Few patients reported shortness of breath (10%) or cough (25%), even if their blood oxygen levels were 91% or lower or they were taking 23 or more breaths per minute. "In our study, only 10% of hospitalized patients reported shortness of breath, and admission respiratory symptoms were not associated with hypoxemia [low blood oxygen] or mortality, underscoring that respiratory symptoms are uncommon and by themselves may not accurately identify at-risk patients," the authors wrote, adding that delays in recognition could lead to poor outcomes.
"Ask a friend or family member to monitor you for a minute while you're not paying attention to your breathing, and if you hit 23 breaths per minute, you should contact your physician."]
Healthy lungs keep the blood oxygenated at a level between 95 and 100%—if it dips below 92%, it’s a cause for concern and a doctor might decide to intervene with supplemental oxygen
From a story about a guy that got covid: I started getting fever and my oxygen levels were touching 87-88ish. ALARM BELL … my family immediately started looking for a hospital admission option.
My oxygen level was 80 that day. They put me on steroids on the date of admission and asked my family to wait for a day to monitor my condition. The next day my condition further deteriorated and my oxygen level was touching 78-79ish and doctor requested my family to arrange REMDESIVIR. [/i][/div]
This is not medical advice, just one guys story. My previous idea that people could function with a blood oxygen level of 60 is way off and dangerous so I wanted to find some examples of blood oxygen levels and a person's ability to function. This is not medical advice.
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Post by Handy on Jul 23, 2021 18:34:13 GMT -5
Just what we do not need, another variant of Covid.
Just when people were beginning to wrap their heads around the delta variant of COVID-19, this week, Texas’ hospital system has become the first to report a case of the lambda variant.
According to ABC News, Monday, Houston Methodist Hospital, which operates eight hospitals in its network, confirmed its first case of the COVID-19 lambda variant that was first detected in Peru back in Dec. 2020 and has since spread rather quickly throughout South America.
In June, the World Health Organization reported that lambda makes up 81% of COVID-19 cases sequenced in Peru since April and designates lambda as a “variant of interest.”
Elle Duncan Stan Account (@mumbles_j) July 21, 2021
“I don’t think there’s sufficient evidence at this point that we should be more concerned about lambda than delta,” he added. “I still think delta is the primary concern for us. There’s a lot more evidence that we have that delta is much more contagious, the viral loads are much higher.”
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Post by northstarmom on Jul 23, 2021 23:48:55 GMT -5
My post SM partner, 69, is now over the Delta variant (that he got despite being fully vaccinated) after being sick 14 days including 5 days on home oxygen. We both are glad that his libido has returned. And I'm happy to say that we can enjoy sex since he now has tested negative for the virus. This is the same randy guy who immediately after waking up after surgery for a ruptured colon a couple of years ago asked the nurse if he could have sex. She answered, "Yes But not in this hospital!".
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Post by isthisit on Jul 24, 2021 0:36:39 GMT -5
Just what we do not need, another variant of Covid. Just when people were beginning to wrap their heads around the delta variant of COVID-19, this week, Texas’ hospital system has become the first to report a case of the lambda variant.
According to ABC News, Monday, Houston Methodist Hospital, which operates eight hospitals in its network, confirmed its first case of the COVID-19 lambda variant that was first detected in Peru back in Dec. 2020 and has since spread rather quickly throughout South America.
In June, the World Health Organization reported that lambda makes up 81% of COVID-19 cases sequenced in Peru since April and designates lambda as a “variant of interest.”
Elle Duncan Stan Account (@mumbles_j) July 21, 2021
“I don’t think there’s sufficient evidence at this point that we should be more concerned about lambda than delta,” he added. “I still think delta is the primary concern for us. There’s a lot more evidence that we have that delta is much more contagious, the viral loads are much higher.” This is here too. 😞 And we are swimming in Delta which is hospitalising the young in droves due to the belief that they do not need to be vaccinated. Lambda was upgraded to a variant of concern here yesterday. This will continue while wealthy nations choose to only minimally share their vaccine supplies with the developing world. Hence the WHO‘s: “no-one is safe until everyone is safe”. I’m thoroughly sick of it all.
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Post by worksforme2 on Jul 24, 2021 9:23:03 GMT -5
As of yesterday (7-23-21) there are no reported cases of the Lambda variant in NC. However the Delta variant is increasingly making its presence known. Fortunately those who are vaccinated, (specially with the Moderna stick) seem pretty resistant. Only 6% of cases of Covid19 are breakthrough here.
On a related note... my Doctor has me on a high Vitamin D3 regimen, because my levels were very low. As encouragement he told me that Vitamin D3 is the best preventative possible for Covid19, other than avoiding all contact with others.
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Post by worksforme2 on Aug 5, 2021 15:46:08 GMT -5
I try to keep abreast of what is going on Covid19 wise in NC. As of yesterday 6% of in bed patients and 17% of ICU beds are occupied by Covid patients.
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Post by worksforme2 on Aug 5, 2021 17:14:30 GMT -5
No matter where you live, get vaccinated and keep masking and distancing. My post SM partner is now on home oxygen after getting the Delta variant despite our getting the J&J vaccine in late April. He is lucky to be alive because not only is he high risk because he had a heart attack 10 years ago, but there are no open hospital beds within at least 90 minutes of where we live in Mexico. I think he got the virus because even though he had been great about masking and social distancing since the pandemic began, he recently decided it was OK to go maskless at his gym because he is vaccinated and his gym has a large door that they keep open. Do not let down your guard no matter what you see others do. When I bought his meds last night, I was sto see that the clerk at the pharmacy was maskless! While I tested negative after my partner tested positive last Monday, I could be positive now and asymptomatic. And make sure you have an oxymeter. If you or your loved ones get sick, know that if your oxygen levels dip below 92% that means you should go to the hospital. Our doctor did not tell my partner that. Only reason I knew to do this was because I'd long been reading about what to do if you get Covid. In general, people can't tell when their oxygen levels dip until the levels are so low that they are gasping for air. And waiting that late to get medical help causes many people to unneccesarily die. I still mask up pretty much everywhere I go. I also have an Oxygenator. It pulls oxygen from the air and can supply pure oxygen should I need it. I also bought one for my oldest son who has sleep apnea.
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Post by Handy on Aug 5, 2021 18:53:49 GMT -5
Moderna plans to have third vaccine booster shot ready by fall.
Moderna said in a report Thursday that booster shots of its COVID-19 vaccine appear to be effective against the Delta variant, and that it's two-dose vaccine regimen is effective for at least several months.
Other covid brand vaccines also will need booster shots/jabs.
COVID-19 variants? Are they more contagious?
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Post by worksforme2 on Aug 6, 2021 6:38:22 GMT -5
Lambda was upgraded to a variant of concern here yesterday. This will continue while wealthy nations choose to only minimally share their vaccine supplies with the developing world. Hence the WHO‘s: “no-one is safe until everyone is safe”. I’m thoroughly sick of it all. Like a couple of other members here I would also like to see wealthier countries make their vaccines more available to poor countries. The US just shipped another 110,000,000 doses to other countries. The news blip didn't say which countries. One disappointing but not surprising bit of news. The Clinton foundation is promoting the Chinese vaccine. Disappointing on several levels. First one would think they would be promoting American products., but it's the Clinton Foundation. Second, the Chinese vaccine does not seem to provide the same levels of protection as the vaccines produced here. So why buy something that isn't nearly as good as a home grown product, even if the price is lower? I don't know how the European vaccines compare, either for costs or efficiency. UPDATE: Fenofibrate (a cholesterol lowering drug) has shown to reduce Covid19 symptoms and transmission rates in infected mice, by about 70%. It's cheap, a pill and has a long history of safety. This could be a game changer.
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Post by isthisit on Aug 6, 2021 9:22:41 GMT -5
Lambda was upgraded to a variant of concern here yesterday. This will continue while wealthy nations choose to only minimally share their vaccine supplies with the developing world. Hence the WHO‘s: “no-one is safe until everyone is safe”. I’m thoroughly sick of it all. Like a couple of other members here I would also like to see wealthier countries make their vaccines more available to poor countries. The US just shipped another 110,000,000 doses to other countries. The news blip didn't say which countries. One disappointing but not surprising bit of news. The Clinton foundation is promoting the Chinese vaccine. Disappointing on several levels. First one would think they would be promoting American products., but it's the Clinton Foundation. Second, the Chinese vaccine does not seem to provide the same levels of protection as the vaccines produced here. I don't know how the European vaccines compare, either for costs or efficiency. In terms of comparison, well it depends what you are comparing. Protection from infection, or becoming symptomatic, or hospitalised or deceased? And which population factoring in degrees of risk such as age, immunosuppression etc? Then of course there is the potential of protection from transmitting the wretched thing to others. Or comparable risks and side effects? There is no one answer as nothing is simple in the world of vaccines. Short cut: The US & European ones are safe and effective- get the jab. I asked my friend (on your behalf worksforme2 ) and she said the Chinese one is not that bad at all and is dirt cheap. Perhaps this is why it was promoted to the developing world. The Russian one is very iffy with limited efficacy, which is not surprising given the highly questionable data (borderline fiction in parts) and very little real world testing. I’d rather take my chances with covid. I am exceptionally grateful to be a British citizen. I wish everyone on the planet had the protection I enjoy.
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Post by northstarmom on Aug 6, 2021 18:48:09 GMT -5
Update on my partner who got a severe case of Covid Delta despite being fully vaxxed: About 2 weeks after he finally tested negative, while we were having sex, he noticed that he no longer had peripheral vision. Follow-up with a neurologist revealed my partner had had a ministroke (transient ischemic attack) probably due to a blood clot in his occiptal lobe that was probably caused by the Covid. It's unlikely his peripheral vision will come back. In addition to my anxiety about my partner's health, I also was wondering about our sex life since the ministroke happened during sex. I love him so much that I was willing to give up sex if the thought of it creeped him out. But today, two days after he got that diagnosis, we had sex again with my partner's enthusiastic encouragement. Sex people like sex. People who don't like sex will use any excuse to avoid it.
BTW, partner is now on prescribed blood thinners that will make it unlikely that he will have more blood clots.
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Post by jerri on Aug 6, 2021 20:29:05 GMT -5
I probably got the Delta varient from my husband who was doing a lot of remodeling at home. I have had Moderna and we had him on prophalactic blood thinners and I had him on a covid protocol because he is very hard to treat asthmatic. His asthma got slightly worse. (Dry cough and his hearing was lost for several days). I had a headache, dry cough, itchy, runny nose with itchy inner ear! I thought, wow, these allergies are bad! I checked my lung function with an oximeter and it was 95%. Hmmm! I said, lovey,my nose won't stop running and my inner ear and nose are itching like crazy! He said, wow! That's me! I lost my hearing several days ago and I just got it back!uh oh! I need to look for symptoms of Delta! Yep! Top two were headache and runny nose! Then oops, loss of hearing. Yikes! I called in and asked a nurse if my temp went up to normal when I am usually at 96 if this was fever for my body. She said, yep, keep an eye on any changes. I didn't find testing that took walk-ins on Friday so I waited and went on FLCCC.net doctor protocol and boom! Over the weekend it vanished! She said it probably won't show up on a PCR past 3 days but told me to test for antibodies. I went in and she said I didn't have enough time to build up antibodies and most people who came in were on the lowest level of antibodies. 3 tiers I had antibodies on the 2nd and she said in 3 weeks I would probably have 3rd tier antibodies.
The odd thing is I told my sweet that we should have known it wasn't allergies because they were really bad with no eye watering. I started on asprin 3x a day to avoid blood clotting that's high with Delta! My D levels are at 65nanograms which probably saved me. But most of all Moderna saved my husband alongside Dr. Mercola's anti inflammation protocol. By the time I got wise, I chose to stay in and not infect anyone else at a urgent Care clinic. But looking back, we didn't let any of the contractors in our home but my husband was the only one who wore a mask.
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Post by northstarmom on Aug 6, 2021 22:29:41 GMT -5
Didn't know before about taking 3 aspirin prophylactically. My partner has for a long time taken one a day for his heart, and I assumed that was enough when he had the virus. Damn. Wish I'd known better.
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