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Post by bballgirl on Mar 25, 2017 19:56:59 GMT -5
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Post by GeekGoddess on Mar 25, 2017 22:06:56 GMT -5
Oh yes - on the nail head.
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Post by nancyb on Mar 25, 2017 22:08:43 GMT -5
Wonderful article. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by solodriver on Mar 26, 2017 1:01:37 GMT -5
This was from one of the commenters in that article. Sound familiar to anyone?
"Sometimes it's great, the love him and I share...and then other times we are fighting and at odds with one another so much that we can't even be nice to each other anymore. And then we pull away. We've been together for about a year and a half and although we are engaged we have broken it off twice. Scary part is that he feels that we are doomed to be fighting with one another for the rest of our lives. I'm the one seen as asking for too much,because I want to be touched or held, even called too needy, and then ungreatful when I try and tell him what I like in the bedroom. He won't do it and says I ruin it for him and I should be great full he gives what he does. He is intimidated by a woman that knows what she wants? And to top it off he calls me crazy. Yet I come back to him and show him so much love and compassion because I believe that's what love does. It loves the unlovable. He shows me he loves me with his actions but his words rip me to pieces. When we fight it's because he's been extremely hurtful towards me and said things I would never dream to say to another person. He thinks women are too much work and he could go back to not needing one. I feel he takes love for granted and wonder how a stint of his being without me would change his heart to learn to embrace with live rather than to push it away. I love him with all my heart and wish he was as tender hearted as I am and a person that is peaceful in how they communicate rather than to stir up strife and cause pain. He was single for 6 years and says he didnt really think about a relationship or even marriage in terms of what he wanted in another person. When we first got together he brought me flowers for my birthday at work without my knowing it was something I always wanted someone to do, and when he proposed it was all perfect. Yet he says he doesn't feel the same towards me anymore. However in other areas he had to mature and it's been a tug of war. He's had to get perspective from other men into how to be more sensitive if a woman's feelings. My dad says he has a bad attitude towards women in general and he has alot to still learn in how to even be with one. I'm trying to figure out how much more of our all I can take and if it would be better for him if I just walked away. Seems like I'm too much of a problem to him. Yet im on pins and needles after we fight and I go to work worried he is going to end things with me. We were apart for 6 months as he lived in another town and I had to go about 2 hours drive to go see him once a week...am thinking that also played into all this because he moved shortly after he proposed. We also live in 2 separate houses as we can't afford to get a place together yet..but I wonder if living together would make things easier or harder. As it seems living apart has put a huge strain on our relationship. I dont even know how to be with him anymore as I feel rejected like I can't come to him and as if his feelings are fickle. Maybe I'm wrong here I just don't know. I'm such a fighter that I hold on and fight for love and it seems that it's good for a little while and then we hit another road block where we have to learn how to compromise, communicate and be a couple all over again. Even though it feels like we come back stronger, I'm concerned I'm taking him down a journey that honestly is to much as I'm the first real committed relationship he's had that is this strong."
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Post by baza on Mar 27, 2017 1:03:14 GMT -5
This bit in the article I found quite meaningful - where this Dina Strada woman says - "I have watched people hold on so tight to someone who is no longer serving them that they strangle what little life there is out of it".
I think there's a lot in that statement. In other words, we tend to grind the dysfunctional dynamic into the ground, killing off any residual goodwill that might have existed. We clung on too long, would be another way of putting it.
It far from unusual when ILIASM shithole escapees talk about leaving for them to say "my only regret is in not leaving earlier".
For that matter (and based on the old EP group since Feb 2009, and this group for a further 11 months), I can't remember ever seeing a run of stories in here culminating in someone leaving and thinking - "Geez they acted to leave with indecent haste".
Still, as an escapee myself - who most certainly DID hang on far, far too long - all I can note is that the "right" time is *when you do it*. Whenever that might be.
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Post by WindSister on Mar 27, 2017 11:59:31 GMT -5
I like to read such articles a lot even though I am in a happy marriage. "The quality of your life depends on the quality of the questions you ask yourself." (Something like that and I believe Tony Robbins is the source of that quote). I am pulling the questions out of the article, hope that is okay: (I am also including the ending, which I think is empowering if one embraces it!).
I want to add, though, true self-love is realizing you don't "need" another to thrive in life. Yes, you can be in love, give it all you have, fight for it, enjoy it, embrace it, sacrifice (to a healthy point) for it, etc., but this other person doesn't complete your life. True self confidence comes from knowing this - not from feeling you are better than another. My husband could leave me. He could fall in love with some chick at work. He could return to an ex. These have all been fears of mine until I finally embraced the reality - yup,all that COULD happen! And if it does, there's not a damn thing I can do, so lighten up, enjoy the relationship, give it all I have and keep my eyes/heart/mind open. Don't become the boiled frog. If it's good keep fighting for it. If it turns bad and he stops contributing, end it. (simple to say, I know).
I think we answer all these questions with an honest and then add "but....." When we are done with the "buts" we move on, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 12:18:58 GMT -5
Yes, this is related.
I saw my ex this past weekend. No physical stuff - as usual. We did have a good time in a "friends" kind of way - went to a bookstore and a museum. (Yes, that's our idea of fun!)
And....he went to bed at 8:00 PM, leaving me on the living room couch watching TV.
And...he is still (IMHO) over-parenting the pet we share, who lives with him. (The cat is the reason he cites for never staying anywhere overnight.)
No, I don't think I would be truly happy if we got back together. Because he would still be avoiding sex, and avoiding closeness and intimacy.
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Post by obobfla on Mar 28, 2017 21:16:10 GMT -5
Yes, this is related. I saw my ex this past weekend. No physical stuff - as usual. We did have a good time in a "friends" kind of way - went to a bookstore and a museum. (Yes, that's our idea of fun!) And....he went to bed at 8:00 PM, leaving me on the living room couch watching TV. And...he is still (IMHO) over-parenting the pet we share, who lives with him. (The cat is the reason he cites for never staying anywhere overnight.) No, I don't think I would be truly happy if we got back together. Because he would still be avoiding sex, and avoiding closeness and intimacy. I think you and your ex are in the perfect spot! It's where you should be with him.
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Post by McRoomMate on Apr 1, 2017 14:33:24 GMT -5
This is an excellent article . . . though I am on the other side (read: my W should be asking herself these questions about me).
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Post by Copernicus on Apr 7, 2017 19:15:46 GMT -5
Thanks Bballgirl - very insightful.
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Post by Copernicus on Apr 9, 2017 22:34:49 GMT -5
Alternative clues it's time to let the one you love go:
1. The engine won't turn 2. It leaks lots of fluid 3. The exterior is a mess 4. The bottom end has seized up 5. It's just an old rust-bucket 6. You just don't ride it anymore 7. The indicators give mixed signals 8. You just wish someone else would take it off your hands
Any others?
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