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Post by jim44444 on Jul 15, 2017 21:27:00 GMT -5
Why? Every time some two bit celebrity dies people wail and carry on for days. Who will mourn the loss of this intellectual giant? link
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Post by DryCreek on Jul 15, 2017 21:47:55 GMT -5
Exactly. "Maryam, who?"
However, stick her in a trashy reality show and suddenly she'd be "newsworthy".
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Post by lwoetin on Jul 16, 2017 0:18:15 GMT -5
I haven't heard of her unfortunately. It's too bad there isn't a show to highlight people's work, especially when they win the Nobel Prize. Theoretical math would be very tough to follow but if applied to study of universe then that makes it more approachable for the general public.
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Post by DryCreek on Jul 16, 2017 0:39:12 GMT -5
True, but her latest work was solving for the path of a billiard ball on a multi-sided pool table. That's a concept I can grasp.
I'd be curious why that's a difficult problem (I expect it must be, if it was worth pursuing), and it probably has interesting applications beyond the layman's billiard table. But it's certainly fodder for a 5-minute bio segment. I recall Richard Feynman was pretty good at layman's analogies like this.
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Post by jim44444 on Jul 16, 2017 11:41:45 GMT -5
True, but her latest work was solving for the path of a billiard ball on a multi-sided pool table. That's a concept I can grasp. I'd be curious why that's a difficult problem (I expect it must be, if it was worth pursuing), and it probably has interesting applications beyond the layman's billiard table. But it's certainly fodder for a 5-minute bio segment. I recall Richard Feynman was pretty good at layman's analogies like this. I believe the calculation for any one episode of a path is doable but tedious. The challenge was to find a formula to calculate all possibilities, both the periodic and non-periodic. The are uses for this at the molecular and atomic levels but not in my world. link
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 18:36:33 GMT -5
I agree - as a society, we make people famous for all the wrong reasons.
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Post by lwoetin on Jul 16, 2017 23:33:16 GMT -5
True, but her latest work was solving for the path of a billiard ball on a multi-sided pool table. That's a concept I can grasp. I'd be curious why that's a difficult problem (I expect it must be, if it was worth pursuing), and it probably has interesting applications beyond the layman's billiard table. But it's certainly fodder for a 5-minute bio segment. I recall Richard Feynman was pretty good at layman's analogies like this. here's some material about her work on billiards table to boggle our minds... www.wired.com/2014/08/maryam-mirzakhani-fields-medal/It seems they published a journal paper that is 150 pages long, which sounds like a joke. Hopefully it has a lot of pictures.
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Post by jim44444 on Jul 17, 2017 14:00:38 GMT -5
I agree - as a society, we make people famous for all the wrong reasons. It is a sad commentary on our society. I remember that I posted a thread about her on EP when she won the medal. If I recall correctly no one had heard of her then.
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Post by snowman12345 on Jul 20, 2017 20:06:37 GMT -5
But everyone can name that Kardashian in two frames of film. "Film" - I am getting old - I still say "I have it on tape" too. I will say this - if I had to choose between our news media and being spoon fed North Korea's propaganda on the news, I know which one I would pick.
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Post by petrushka on Jul 23, 2017 6:24:23 GMT -5
Well gosh ... two links in this thread and both, after my reading there, shut me down in a minute or thereabouts "you're using an ad blocker, we won't let you read this stuff unless you watch our ads or pay us money" .... well, so be it. I pulled the plug out of the television 20 years ago because the ads pissed me off. And I will now do without reading Wired and theatlantic.com (neither one of which I have ever read before online).
Flashing ads on websites give me migraines. F.... those guys and the horse they rode in on (actually, the horse doesn't deserve it).
Terrible shame about the mathematician - she certainly was more worthy of attention that the reality tv trash 'personalities', but personally I would not have been able to understand a thing she's been doing for the last so and so many years. I haven't done higher maths in 45 years .... and it's gone, all gone.
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Post by wewbwb on Jul 23, 2017 9:04:22 GMT -5
Well gosh ... two links in this thread and both, after my reading there, shut me down in a minute or thereabouts "you're using an ad blocker, we won't let you read this stuff unless you watch our ads or pay us money" .... well, so be it. I pulled the plug out of the television 20 years ago because the ads pissed me off. And I will now do without reading Wired and theatlantic.com (neither one of which I have ever read before online). Flashing ads on websites give me migraines. F.... those guys and the horse they rode in on (actually, the horse doesn't deserve it). Terrible shame about the mathematician - she certainly was more worthy of attention that the reality tv trash 'personalities', but personally I would not have been able to understand a thing she's been doing for the last so and so many years. I haven't done higher maths in 45 years .... and it's gone, all gone. Maybe the horse would enjoy it . You selfish bastard.
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