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Post by WindSister on Mar 18, 2018 11:01:12 GMT -5
t.ted.com/3CyF4hyLeaving this right here. I know I needed to read this, but I don't have time to reflect on it as I have firewood to haul and stack. Dare ya to take a gander at it....
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Post by csl on Mar 18, 2018 14:29:35 GMT -5
t.ted.com/3CyF4hyLeaving this right here. I know I needed to read this, but I don't have time to reflect on it as I have firewood to haul and stack. Dare ya to take a gander at it.... What, not why. I posted this Campolo story in November.
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Post by WindSister on Mar 19, 2018 20:45:04 GMT -5
It's a long excerpt, but I think it's worth a look at..
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Post by bballgirl on Mar 19, 2018 21:20:19 GMT -5
WindSisterThanks for sharing that it was a great read!
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Post by baza on Mar 19, 2018 21:45:31 GMT -5
This throws an extra dimension into the "why" question doesn't it.
I've hither-to had a view that chasing someone elses "why" is a waste of time. I stand by that view.
But chasing ones own "why" I have thought is a very worthwhile thing to pursue. And I stand by that too.
But this introduction of "what" into the mix is a very interesting concept, and makes quite a bit of sense.
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Post by DryCreek on Mar 20, 2018 0:03:03 GMT -5
WindSister, this was a timely post for a book I'm currently reading on a completely different topic, but a related point. The book is "Never Split the Difference" by Chris Voss, a former FBI hostage negotiator. (It's an excellent read, by the way, for a lot of uses - but especially folks who negotiate deals or conflicts.) Relevant point being, I just finished a chapter discussing the word 'why' and how it invokes a defensive response - it requires the subject to defend an action or decision. Simply rewording the approach causes a very different reaction. Instead of "Why did you do that?", perhaps "What led up to this event?". Having post-mortem'd many fuck-ups, "How can this be prevented in the future?" is a disarming way of asking "Why the hell did you do this?!" by focusing on the problem, and getting the subject to actually contribute to analyzing their failure (on the premise that the focus is not on placing blame).
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Post by elkclan2 on Mar 20, 2018 5:51:04 GMT -5
ooh good book suggestion.
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Post by WindSister on Mar 20, 2018 6:57:25 GMT -5
Great share. That circles me back around to what Brene Brown tries to teach: that shame is not a good motivator to ellicit positive change. Making someone "feel bad" doesn't change them. It is not empowering.
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Post by greatcoastal on Mar 21, 2018 11:59:43 GMT -5
That's a good article. I do agree that asking " why" does have it's place. "You have to push backwards in order to swing forward".
"History repeats itself" is another one.
However, dealing with a SM requires far more what (action) than why (words).
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Post by elynne on Mar 26, 2018 2:54:05 GMT -5
I used “what not why” when my youngest knocked a huge glass jar of peanut butter onto the tile floor this morning.
“What just happened?” She explained it. “What do you think you could do in the future to prevent that from happening?” She happily said, I could put the peanut butter in the middle of the table and not at the edge.”
This worked so well! And much more effective than my nagging to put jars of jam and peanut butter in the middle of the table!
I need to make this a ingrained strategy of communication!
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Post by ted on Mar 26, 2018 21:56:23 GMT -5
The book is "Never Split the Difference" by Chris Voss, a former FBI hostage negotiator. (It's an excellent read, by the way, for a lot of uses - but especially folks who negotiate deals or conflicts.) At your suggestion, DryCreek, I listened to the book. Thank you for a very entertaining and useful read. I'm already employing several of its ideas in my conversations, in particular: labeling, silence, and calibrated questions. They work as advertised!
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Post by DryCreek on Mar 26, 2018 23:21:50 GMT -5
At your suggestion, DryCreek, I listened to the book. Thank you for a very entertaining and useful read. I'm already employing several of its ideas in my conversations, in particular: labeling, silence, and calibrated questions. They work as advertised! Cool! I'm slowly working my way through the paper version and enjoying it. He's compiled some very effective techniques for getting your counterpart to share more than intended and then propose the outcome you want but didn't ask for. I can't take credit for discovering it, another wise person here recommended it to me. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 7:21:51 GMT -5
At your suggestion, DryCreek , I listened to the book. Thank you for a very entertaining and useful read. I'm already employing several of its ideas in my conversations, in particular: labeling, silence, and calibrated questions. They work as advertised! Cool! I'm slowly working my way through the paper version and enjoying it. He's compiled some very effective techniques for getting your counterpart to share more than intended and then propose the outcome you want but didn't ask for. I can't take credit for discovering it, another wise person here recommended it to me. ;-) I read this book several months ago. It was an excellent read and passed it on to my sister. She's using some of the techniques taught in the book on her husband. It's working well for her. The writer's bravado was not my style but you can still learn from the book.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 7:35:51 GMT -5
It's just my opinion but I think it's easy to get caught up in self defeating behaviors, especially in a SM. I'm one for taking responsibility for your situation. It's easy to blame our spouses but we're the ones who stay and accept it. Life is difficult and sometimes you have to soldier on, even when it's painful. I've found mindfulness training especially helpful in dealing with my marriage. It's made me aware of the thoughts and emotions that go through my head. We never consider training our minds but that's really what mindfulness training does. It's like exercise for the body but for the mind. You have to learn how to let go of your thoughts and emotions. There's much freedom with letting go of things. Out of that freedom comes peace and contentment in your life. Of course, you're going to have bad days. We're still people. But most of the time, it's nice having a tool to deal with daily life. That's what mindfulness does for me. I'm reading this book right now "Search Inside Yourself..." www.amazon.com/Search-Inside-Yourself-Unexpected-Achieving/dp/0062116932 . The book is very practical and explains some mindfulness techniques you can use in your life that are scientifically based. The author's humor might not be to everyone's liking but it grows on you. I like that he does not take himself so seriously.
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Post by bballgirl on Mar 28, 2018 18:12:25 GMT -5
It's just my opinion but I think it's easy to get caught up in self defeating behaviors, especially in a SM. I'm one for taking responsibility for your situation. It's easy to blame our spouses but we're the ones who stay and accept it. Life is difficult and sometimes you have to soldier on, even when it's painful. I've found mindfulness training especially helpful in dealing with my marriage. It's made me aware of the thoughts and emotions that go through my head. We never consider training our minds but that's really what mindfulness training does. It's like exercise for the body but for the mind. You have to learn how to let go of your thoughts and emotions. There's much freedom with letting go of things. Out of that freedom comes peace and contentment in your life. Of course, you're going to have bad days. We're still people. But most of the time, it's nice having a tool to deal with daily life. That's what mindfulness does for me. I'm reading this book right now "Search Inside Yourself..." www.amazon.com/Search-Inside-Yourself-Unexpected-Achieving/dp/0062116932 . The book is very practical and explains some mindfulness techniques you can use in your life that are scientifically based. The author's humor might not be to everyone's liking but it grows on you. I like that he does not take himself so seriously. I agree with this! I have good days and I have bad days. They are tied to my emotions and I tell myself that emotions change from day to day.
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