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Post by jerri on Nov 3, 2020 21:36:41 GMT -5
I'm very frightened  Totally anonymous poll! Lurkers come and vote! Please hug me! |
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Post by petrushka on Nov 4, 2020 1:37:08 GMT -5
I voted for Jacinda!
(sends a virtual hug to jerri ) |
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Post by DryCreek on Nov 4, 2020 2:18:01 GMT -5
Wait... that was today? Damn. I wish someone had mentioned it!
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Post by mirrororchid on Nov 4, 2020 19:39:55 GMT -5
I live in Maryland.
If Joe Biden lost Maryland, there was ZERO hope for him.
The last time a Republican won was Ronald Reagan's second term when he won 49 states.
I have the luxury of telling both parties how much I'm unimpressed and I vote third party almost every chance I get.
They say third party voting is wasting your vote?
Not in Wyoming, Utah, DC, Maryland, Massachusetts, Alaska, or Vermont. Voting for a major party in any of those states is wasting your vote. you get lost in the noise either in an avalanche of support or a futile, weak protest vote.
A third party vote in those states tells the major parties what they should do if they want your vote back.
Florida? Ohio? Wisconsin? Okay, vote major party. It matters. But not for me.
I'll vote major party when they send me someone good.
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Post by jerri on Nov 4, 2020 20:09:42 GMT -5
I voted for Jacinda!
(sends a virtual hug to jerri ) If only we could steal her! That's how you take care of covid! Smart man! (((Hugs tighter))) 😍 |
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Post by jerri on Nov 4, 2020 20:12:29 GMT -5
Wait... that was today? Damn. I wish someone had mentioned it!  you make me smile and laugh! |
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Post by jerri on Nov 4, 2020 20:37:12 GMT -5
I live in Maryland. If Joe Biden lost Maryland, there was ZERO hope for him. The last time a Republican won was Ronald Reagan's second term when he won 49 states. I have the luxury of telling both parties how much I'm unimpressed and I vote third party almost every chance I get. They say third party voting is wasting your vote? Not in Wyoming, Utah, DC, Maryland, Massachusetts, Alaska, or Vermont. Voting for a major party in any of those states is wasting your vote. you get lost in the noise either in an avalanche of support or a futile, weak protest vote. A third party vote in those states tells the major parties what they should do if they want your vote back. Florida? Ohio? Wisconsin? Okay, vote major party. It matters. But not for me. I'll vote major party when they send me someone good. Maryland is a safe blue. I send messages to the parties during primaries, then vote for one of top two. Mmm, to die for crab cakes! |
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Post by mirrororchid on Nov 5, 2020 6:31:13 GMT -5
I live in Maryland. ... Florida? Ohio? Wisconsin? Okay, vote major party. It matters. But not for me. I'll vote major party when they send me someone good. Maryland is a safe blue. I send messages to the parties during primaries, then vote for one of top two. Mmm, to die for crab cakes! My mother and wife think like you. That's why it's always a huge land slide for Democrats. Granted, the governor's race does go red sometimes (like now). (US Senate, Comptroller, and Attorney General are consistently >60%) We've had a long line of mealy-mouth president-wannabes in there. O'Malley? Glendenning? Thoroughly forgettable. Schaeffer was the last that seemed interested in actual improvement of the state. Hogan and Ehrlich did things I don't like much. They were effective. Wish they hadn't been, but my side's candidates could take some notes. When Democrats run here, they seem to think being a Democrat is enough. Clinton and Biden both ran that kind of campaign. What does Biden mean to do when he gets in? Unite America! *sigh* whatever. Lightweight. "Make America Great Again" was just as vague, so no one on the other side needs to get all pleased with themselves, but "Build a Wall!" told me what he wanted. Bad idea, good campaign. [Serious immigration reformers are partial to mandatory E-verify, walls are just silly.] |
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Post by saarinista on Nov 5, 2020 9:38:46 GMT -5
mirrororchid third party candidates never win. It is a wasted vote IMHO. Your voice can be heard by wrong a letter to your Dem or GOP elected leader too. I repeat. 3rd party candidates do not win.
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Post by Handy on Nov 5, 2020 19:52:03 GMT -5
Who or what is Kanye West? I never heard of him or is it a woman? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_WestDefinitely not voting for him! We don't need a rapper in the White House.
I did read some of his background and apparently he did consider running for the presidency.
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Post by saarinista on Nov 5, 2020 20:47:04 GMT -5
Okay Handy you are far too sheltered. Kanye West is married to Kim Kardashian. I despise the Kardashians with a passion and Kanye is bipolar and needs to tend to his health, not worry about running for President. |
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Post by petrushka on Nov 5, 2020 22:55:14 GMT -5
mirrororchid third party candidates never win. It is a wasted vote IMHO. Your voice can be heard by wrong a letter to your Dem or GOP elected leader too. I repeat. 3rd party candidates do not win. Ah, you need the MMP or the STV electoral systems, then 3rd party candidates make sense. I am just trying to think back: we had the FPP (first past the post) system here until ... the 1980s some time? And it led to similar outcomes as the 2017 US election, in other words the party with fewer votes had the most members in parliament on occasion. So we adopted the MMP system. Any party that can get more than 5% of the general vote, OR wins a single seat by direct vote, will have representation, and minority parties are often involved in government. I think it works well. You have more than two 300pound Gorillas who can just sit whereever they want. It's much fairer, because generally speaking there are more than just two viewpoints in a country ... so to have some choice is nice. And you get compromise.
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Post by mirrororchid on Nov 6, 2020 7:02:05 GMT -5
mirrororchid third party candidates never win. It is a wasted vote IMHO. Your voice can be heard by wrong a letter to your Dem or GOP elected leader too. I repeat. 3rd party candidates do not win. In the Arkansas US Senate race this year, there was no Democratic candidate! Was a vote for the Libertarian opponent wasted? petrushka brings up alternate voting systems. Excellent point. In Maine, which uses ranked choice voting (also called "Instant Runoff") if you vote third party, and he/she/ze doesn't win, that vote is tossed and your second choice becomes your vote. |
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Post by northstarmom on Nov 6, 2020 7:03:08 GMT -5
Kanye West, a mentally ill rapper with no political experience, got more than 60,000 votes in a total of 12 states.
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Post by lessingham on Nov 6, 2020 10:49:48 GMT -5
Apparently when the USA was formed, the winner became president and the loser vice president. Made for interesting campaigning in that you were saddled with the guy you bad mouthed for 4 years.
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you make me smile and laugh!
